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Post by niko on Oct 2, 2014 20:25:47 GMT
I thought this stupidity is from 4chan because of this tweet: , but it's probably not actually. Doesn't matter, really.
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Post by daviller on Oct 2, 2014 20:48:15 GMT
Some other people tried to contact a Japanese game developer (from the Bayonetta team) to get his thoughts on GamerGate. He said he wasn't interested. They kept pestering him to the point where anyone who mentioned GG to him got blocked. He had such apathy. It was beautiful. Please tell me it was the mighty kamiya himself, makes me imagine some gamergate worm crawl up to a proper boss like him going "please mr kamiya validate my bullshit crusade by telling me im totally right" just to get backhanded by gamings mightyest pimp hand.
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Post by mrnarse on Oct 2, 2014 21:02:31 GMT
GamerGoomba's who claim they're against such things as that cartoon, but then absolve themselves of any responsibility to self-police their own movement makes their actions tantamount to approval of it.
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Post by Kav P on Oct 2, 2014 21:11:22 GMT
Please tell me it was the mighty kamiya himself, makes me imagine some gamergate worm crawl up to a proper boss like him going "please mr kamiya validate my bullshit crusade by telling me im totally right" just to get backhanded by gamings mightyest pimp hand. Bingo!
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Post by Chris on Oct 2, 2014 21:12:02 GMT
@kav, I just saw that referred to. Not only is it telling women how to behave, it's packing some serious assumptions about people asking for change into those two panels.
I've been told that since 4chan mass-deleted the topic gaters have moved on to a site called 8chan, and have claimed the admin of 4chan, moot, in an SJW. Which is hilarious.
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Post by niko on Oct 2, 2014 21:15:36 GMT
GamerGoomba's who claim they're against such things as that cartoon, but then absolve themselves of any responsibility to self-police their own movement makes their actions tantamount to approval of it. Yes! I've told one of them that they have to call out harassers, and he replied that you should just ignore them, because they've already proven themselves as indecent beings, etc. But in this case ignoring's the same as condoning, ffs.
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Post by Kav P on Oct 2, 2014 22:18:17 GMT
Chris Yup. And even then, there were also widely-circulated theories that m00t's girlfriend (apparently a journalist) has been the one pulling the strings behind 4chan as the "corruption in journalism" was affecting her cred, as, well... probably a journalist not remotely involved with games. Remember folks, every time a man does something you don't like, it was probably because of a woman! Women, AMIRITE?
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Post by daviller on Oct 2, 2014 22:21:34 GMT
all i can say to this is
Would it be appropriate for me to built a small shrine for kamiya now, what you guys think?
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Post by niko on Oct 2, 2014 22:59:12 GMT
Go for it!
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Post by mrnarse on Oct 2, 2014 23:28:23 GMT
Viewtiful Joe is probably the hardest game I've ever beaten, so please work a "Henshin a go-go, baby!" into that shrine.
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Post by Chris on Oct 3, 2014 1:03:29 GMT
Viewtiful Joe is indeed awesome, although I preferred Okami out of Clover's games. What are you guys thoughts on dealing with art from people you wind up disagreeing with violently? I really have enjoyed Prequel the webcomic, but then I find out the author has written this stuff.
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Post by kirkvaughn on Oct 3, 2014 2:10:03 GMT
You deal with authors who you disdain as people using this: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_the_Author Though if you link that article in a gamergate discussion, you might be accused as trying to kill JK Rowling.
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Post by Chris on Oct 3, 2014 2:51:47 GMT
I suppose I can certainly go deconstructionist with things and separate the art from the artist. I realize this is kinda dumb in some ways, as if I won't disagree with people who make things that I like.
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Post by Kav P on Oct 3, 2014 12:12:50 GMT
I guess I can tell you as someone who's grown up with people I admire saying things that alienate me with their viewpoints that yeah, it's important to separate the work from the person. And even to separate the work from the problematic elements within the work. If I didn't do those things I wouldn't really be able to enjoy ANYthing. :B
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Post by kirkvaughn on Oct 3, 2014 20:35:02 GMT
So uh, I've spent too much time arguing with a GGer with one follower today, and the debate has gotten to the point where he is now trying to say I only care about death threats when they occur against women. By pointing out all these other times gamers posted death threats for no reason. How is this helping him?
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Post by Chris on Oct 3, 2014 23:58:51 GMT
I don't know kirkvaughn, but I must say I tire of the idea that abuse victims need to provide extensive documentation of their abuse to the public to satisfy some arbitrary standard of what qualifies. In other gater related news, did you folks see this? a.pomf.se/ckjklw.png
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Post by Kav P on Oct 4, 2014 0:07:15 GMT
Yes! I tried to check out 8chan to see what people were saying about it, but it was down. Then when I checked the GG tag, people were going on about how it's "suspicious" that they both went down around the same time. Couldn't have been due to increased traffic to 8chan after Github banned them, nuh uh.
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Post by pabastien on Oct 4, 2014 23:05:59 GMT
FUCKING GATERS. FUCKING NO BRAINED, NO EDUCATION, MORONS. I WANT TO RAM MY SIZE 13 SHOES UP THEIR ASSES AND LEAVE THEM THERE. GOD DAMN IT. I HAVE NEVER WANTED TO BEAT UP A NERD SO MUCH IN MY LIFE. THEY ARE SO STUPID.
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Post by pabastien on Oct 4, 2014 23:15:07 GMT
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Post by daviller on Oct 4, 2014 23:38:16 GMT
FUCKING GATERS. FUCKING NO BRAINED, NO EDUCATION, MORONS. I WANT TO RAM MY SIZE 13 SHOES UP THEIR ASSES AND LEAVE THEM THERE. GOD DAMN IT. I HAVE NEVER WANTED TO BEAT UP A NERD SO MUCH IN MY LIFE. THEY ARE SO STUPID. Erm dude you should like, get a nice cup of tea or something, cause your health might be in danger.
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Post by pabastien on Oct 4, 2014 23:45:01 GMT
I've calmed a bit, but dear god. These people are awful, they're biggots who can't openly hate someone because of their skin and have decided to turn their hatred towards the other gender and we do nothing to stop them. We sit here and complain but no one stops them, no one roots them out and punishes them for hate speech (which is illegal in canada). They need to understand that actions, even words have consequences.
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Post by daviller on Oct 5, 2014 0:13:11 GMT
At the end of the day they are just a bunch of morons on twitter, lets not forget that. We can't stop them from voicing theyr inane bs but they have by and large already lost the battle they think they are fighting. Noone who wields any sort of influence or respect in the games buisness considers them anything more then a momentary nuisance. They are at best considered a jumping of point to talk about the issues they use to mask theyr paranoid entitlement as legitimate criticism. They constandly try to have influential or popular figures validate them and theyr idiotic crusade against... a bunch of people with videogame related blogs, unfortunately for them it isn't working out and the best they can come up with is adam baldwin, that milo dude and the internet aristocrat. Lastly they will achieve nothing but to turn more and more people against them, get bored and then start playing call of duty again like the good little drones they are.
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Post by niko on Oct 5, 2014 1:26:11 GMT
Who says anti-GG have no organisation? Here's a highly classified leaked document from the Grand Anti-Gamer Council Meeting!
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Post by mrnarse on Oct 5, 2014 4:13:00 GMT
The conspiracy is real!
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Post by mrnarse on Oct 5, 2014 7:05:28 GMT
I think that I've managed to capture the drama of GamerGate all in one image Whattya think?
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Post by Kav P on Oct 5, 2014 18:56:04 GMT
FUCKING GATERS. FUCKING NO BRAINED, NO EDUCATION, MORONS. I WANT TO RAM MY SIZE 13 SHOES UP THEIR ASSES AND LEAVE THEM THERE. GOD DAMN IT. I HAVE NEVER WANTED TO BEAT UP A NERD SO MUCH IN MY LIFE. THEY ARE SO STUPID. Tell me about it. I posted a monologue with my #GamerGate thoughts on Twitter, and like clockwork, a bunch of them started replying to me and pretty much helped to prove my points. Here it is if you're interested: storify.com/kav_p/on-finding-a-voice-through-gamergateAnd I love the term "truthbomb". I feel it's one of those terms that modern academia often ignores, and I can't for the life of me imagine why that is.
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Post by pabastien on Oct 5, 2014 20:59:19 GMT
Indeed I wonder why violent and overly didactic terms like Truthbomb aren't used by educated people. /contemplative expression
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Post by daviller on Oct 6, 2014 0:42:45 GMT
Whats with the idiotic codewords used by these morons:
GG idiot one:"literally blue" is now QED via declaration by "literally red", the "reclaimer" has sucessfully boarded the "final destination" and operation "TAC-kame-hame-ha" is about to commence after the "FADC-Dodge offset"!
GG idiot two: on it right away, just let me refill on nachos.
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Post by pabastien on Oct 6, 2014 2:30:41 GMT
Aww they think they're in CoD. How adorable.
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Post by niko on Oct 7, 2014 12:58:38 GMT
So, what's going on with the kids? I saw one of them saying that some university pulled ads from Gamasutra, but so far this is mentioned only on Gator site. Oh, and they also whipped up this hilarious image, once again demonstrating of lack of understanding of pretty much everything:
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